We touched this issue (again, I know it has been up before) on IRC some time ago, happened to agree with @steffenvanbergerem that the project really needs its own pod. The largest reason for this being that posts from the DiasporaHQ account just do not federate out of joindiaspora except randomly. From the last 4 posts, I’ve received two. I’ve checked diasp.eu and diaspora-fr.org and neither had received the post either. It’s just not something we can live with since we cannot debug problems on joindiaspora.com.
So, what is the current level of support (previous discussions have been rejected I remember) for pushing up a pod.diasporafoundation.org pod OR maybe if jhass wants to give it, diaspora.social … It would not be an open pod, but would have accounts like HQ and Team.
To be honest, not a huge fan of diasporafoundation.org domain any more since it doesn’t look like we’re about to set up a legal organization any time soon Maybe we could discuss even adopting diaspora.social if @jhass would be ok with that - then we could have hq@diaspora.social and team@diaspora.social and press@diaspora.social - for example.
Anyway, just to kick of discussion about this again - feel very frustrated on the uselessness of the DHQ account right now.
Migration or loss of followers was mentioned last time as a blocker. I don’t see it that way - most of the followers never receive the messages now anyway so it’s kind of an academic question Once joindiaspora.com updates to 0.5 (Maxwell wants to do it soon, talked with him), we can export the contacts and do a one time “mass follow” on the new pod, and then do a “mass unfollow”. This will create a notification to any others who could then hit follow back if they want.
And I’m totally willing to host the pod and pay for it, if lack of volunteers for that is brought up as a problem.
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Yes, I think the project needs its own pod, not only for technical reasons, the technician can be fixed, but the development of Diaspora* needs its own identity, I feel great respect for the four people who started with the development of this network and for their first pods, but we must ourselves adults and emancipate and also reinforce the idea of federated network.
Also, would need @jhass to comment on the domain name But I guess we would need at least two proposals, one for setting up the pod and one for the domain…
I’d like jd.com to be transformed into a community pod, as most external links to the project are still to that domain. Maxwell seemed interested a while ago in transferring ownership to the core community, any updates on that? Even if Jason or another core member could have admin access, they could help to get the pod functioning better by, e.g. clearing out unused accounts. I think the final transformation would have to wait until pod migration is possible, or there would be a lot of angry people out there! But if it was possible to find a way to do this using jd.com, that would, I think, be the idea situation as it is the domain most associated with the project.
@jhass that is fair and understand totally, it’s a cool domain
@goob I don’t think joindiaspora.com should ever be a central resource - it was once and that time has gone. Also, maintaining it as a community pod would require not only continuous effort but also money. I assume if Maxwell gives it away, he wont be paying for it
@jhass that is fair and understand totally, it’s a cool domain
@goob I don’t think joindiaspora.com should ever be a central resource - it was once and that time has gone. Also, maintaining it as a community pod would require not only continuous effort but also money. I assume if Maxwell gives it away, he wont be paying for it
About a new pod for diaspora HQ well yeah, why not.
About joindiaspora.com managed by other people, I think that I once read Maxwell saying that if someone wants to help him, he is welcome. That way, the pod would still be owned by Max (and, I guess, paid by him) but maybe administrate more often.
not a huge fan of diasporafoundation.org domain any more since it doesn’t look like we’re about to set up a legal organization any time soon
We have a legal organisation (through FSSN) - we’re just not using it. I think the project can certainly make use of the structure they provide until such time as the project sets up its own legal structure.
I think that I once read Maxwell saying that if someone wants to help him, he is welcome.
Jason kindly offered a year or so ago, and I’m pretty sure Maxwell said yes, but then the trail went cold. Jason, did you ever hear back from him?
I think the project can certainly make use of the structure they provide until such time as the project sets up its own legal structure.
When will that be? When one tries to talk about it everybody goes silent…
I don’t know for sure if moving DiasporaHQ is a good idea or not, but I know using it is useless as long as joindiaspora.com is broken. It’s easier to reach diaspora* users by posting to the Diaspora page on Facebook or the account on Twitter than through DiasporaHQ
@jasonrobinson maybe we can wait to see if you success to fix joindiaspora? Like, to clean old accounts and old pods… I personally think that there are also limitations inside diaspora* itself, an account with 300.000 contacts will be broken on any diaspora* pod…
“an account with 300.000 contacts will be broken on any diaspora* pod…”
Also on a pod of only one account?
In that case, we should make a chain?
A Diasporahq acount has a limited number of users, and in athers pods, acounts disporahq1, disporahq2, disoprahq3, also with limited number of followers, and so on?
Maybe we could discuss even adopting diaspora.social if @jhass would be ok with that - then we could have hq@diaspora.social and team@diaspora.social and press@diaspora.social - for example.
Once joindiaspora.com updates to 0.5 (Maxwell wants to do it soon, talked with him), we can export the contacts and do a one time “mass follow” on the new pod, and then do a “mass unfollow”. This will create a notification to any others who could then hit follow back if they want.
I’ll create a proposal if no more discussion happens by the weekend.