NEW blog for diaspora*

Features and Ideas
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Remember www.diasporial.com? Of course you do. Unfortunately the blog is not being updated any longer. We need to make diaspora* development possible, and we need to get involved. Not all of us are programmers, but we can write and promote this social network. We need to organize ourselves and do the following: 1. promote the new blog (blog.diasporafoundation.org) where anyone can share info, promote diaspora* in as many ways as possible, call on volunteer programmers; 2. move the content of the old www.diasporial.com to the new blog; 3. avoid trolling and keep being positive about it :wink:
P.S. Please remind me if I missed something and feel free to jump right in :slight_smile:

You can also check this thread https://www.loomio.org/d/x9VBan3j/diaspora-foundation-site-proposal about the new diaspora* website and https://www.loomio.org/d/rIUqBLWH/project-domain-name for the domain name. But what about the blog? Should the new blog contain the old diasporial blog content?

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Proposal: Should the diaspora* blog be on the same website as The Federation? :slight_smile:

Should the new website (whatever its domain name) contain the diaspora* blog or should it be separated from the main website?

Outcome: N/A

Votes:

  • Yes: 1
  • Abstain: 0
  • No: 0
  • Block: 1

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Proposal: Should we port www.diasporial.com to blog.diasporafoundation.org?

We currently have https://blog.diasporafoundation.org/ Should we port the old diasporial posts to our blog?

Outcome: People agreed on making a planet where blogs can be aggregated into. @augier started a new discussion, please join and take a stand: https://www.loomio.org/d/IK0eyc4h/setup-a-planet-for-community-blogging?utm_campaign=thread_mailer&utm_medium=email&utm_source=new_discussion

Votes:

  • Yes: 3
  • Abstain: 1
  • No: 7
  • Block: 0

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Sorry mate, but I have absolutely no idea what you’re on about.

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Hi Rich,
Thank you for your comment. Maybe I wasn’t very clear on the proposal. I suggested that we could move the content of the old www.diasporial.com to the new blog, that is blog.diasporafoundation.org. If you agree on this, please vote (like a) pro :slight_smile:

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Ok, I understand now.

But what about these: https://diasporafoundation.org/tutorials

?

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Those are where they should be. The problem is with the old blog, we need to have its content on the new blog (in my opinion).

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That’s the kind of social media behavior that I personally disagree with:
1 day ago:
Dennis Schubert blocked the initial proposal: We already do have https://blog.diasporafoundation.org/, so this question is invalid. Please create a new proposal asking if we should port the old diasporial posts to our blog.
15 minutes ago:
Dennis Schubert disagreed: We have great stuff on https://diasporafoundation.org/tutorials and most of the articles on diasporial are outdated, there is no reason to copy them.
So @dennisschubert why would you want me to change the proposal to something that you don’t agree with in the first place? Just so you can click the disagree button afterward? I guess it would have been more respectful of you to tell me that you don’t like the idea in the first place so that I could delete the proposal!

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to tell me that you don’t like the idea in the first place so that I could delete the proposal

Deleting a proposal because somebody does not like it is not a great idea since we’re trying to have democratic votes.

The first proposal was useless, a discussion about if we should have a blog or not is invalid since there is already a blog. Blocking the first proposal was simply a housekeeping task (remember, I’m one of the core members and somebody has to do the job, we would have a huge mess here otherwise).

My vote against adopting the old diasporial.com posts is a simple vote, not a block. That’s my opinion and it will not affect the result of this proposal since my vote is nothing special. If there are more “agree” positions, we will adopt the posts.

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Let me comment on your statements a bit (without markdown):

  1. “The first proposal was useless, a discussion about if we should have a blog or not is invalid since there is already a blog…Blocking the first proposal was simply a housekeeping task (remember, I’m one of the core members and somebody has to do the job, we would have a huge mess here otherwise).” - so this is useless, fair enough;
  2. “Deleting a proposal because somebody does not like it is not a great idea, since we’re trying to have democratic votes.” - and my second proposal is not useless, though you disagree with it and specify clearly (in your own words): “We have great stuff on https://diasporafoundation.org/tutorials and most of the articles on diasporial are outdated, there is no reason to copy them.” And that’s not saying that the second proposal is useless…no, not at all, it’s just “not relevant”. By the way, what was your criterion for claiming that the firs proposal was useless? Did you ask other users? I didn’t see that…maybe they would have liked to see a new blog separated from the diaspora* main website, but you never asked, did you?

I’m sorry to say this, but you’re far from distinguishing between relevance and irrelevance. But please pay some respect to how others spend their time, since we are a community and (I think) we deserve some honest replies.
Thank you for your understanding.

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I disagree that the blog posts from diasporial should be ported to the official project blog, because diasporial was never an official project blog itself - it was a community resource run by a community member.

There was an official blog, the posts from which are still contained on Github - porting those to the new blog would be more appropriate, but I’m not convinced that even that would be necessary, because they are very out-of-date.

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Thank you for your vote, @goob. The idea of porting it has historical backup, not “technicalities”. My idea was that we could conjoin the old info with the new one for the sake of diaspora* s blogging history.

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@riderplus : But, when you talked about this on IRC, it was not only about adoupting diasporial.com, right ?

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Perhaps a better proposal would be to use our blog more frequently, and perhaps have an approach to development coverage similar to what Diasporial was?

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@augier Please read my posts above- my first proposal (that I talked to you and RDash about) was rejected because it was thought to be “useless” by the admin @dennisschubert. Of course I disagree on his decision, but I’m not doing the “house cleaning” here, so I have to respect that the first proposal was rejected. So Dennis Schubert blocked my proposal and there’s nothing to do about it, only if someone else creates a new post. FWIW, I think that blocking a post by reasons of “house cleaning” is authoritarian and highly undemocratic, since the post was not spamming anyone!

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@deadsuperhero We talked about that on our 11th Nov meeting. :slight_smile: Pinging @flaburgan because he wrote https://diaspora-fr.org/posts/793785

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@deadsuperhero The approach to development coverage was what I also talked to @augier on IRC about, among others…maybe someone could start a new post/proposal, if this one doesn’t catch up with what we need for promoting diaspora* better…

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If this post by Kevin is outdated, then whoever maintains it’s outdated is outdated:
http://diasporial.com/articles/diaspora-is-not-ready-for-the-mass-yet
Let me quote:

Diaspora isn’t ready for the mass yet, as much as we would like it to be. What we need to do is “planting the seeds in their minds”, as someone mentioned on the post. Compare it to Twitter. Everyone has heard of Twitter yet most people don’t even know what it’s exactly about. That would definitely be the best case scenario for Diaspora, as people will be more tempted to join once it’s actually ready. And that moment is yet to come.

So please (at least) read the www.diasporial.com blog before expressing your opinion, otherwise you’ll confuse others :slight_smile:

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We talked about this subject yesterday during a informal meetup with @flaburgan.

There are numerous point we could post on a community blog.

Currently, the official blog is used for official communications : new versions and official statements (like what was done when the islamic storm). However, this blog has a new post each 6 months. This does not give the impression of a project that is alive…

In an other hand, there numerous point that we don’t communicate on. Here are some :

  • the work on the chat and the features,
  • the individual initiatives like @praveenarimbrathod’s packaging crowdsourcing or @rich1’s forum,
  • hottest points beeing discussed here,
  • what happens on the forum
  • community fan arts (I strongly believe we should stimulate community fan art)
  • etc…

I give so much time ansering the same question on framsphere.org about the chat and other features. We definitly need a community blog to communicate on these things appart from the official blog.diasporafoundation.org !

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Everybody who wants a community blog - please work together and set one up :slight_smile: Just like @rich1 did with the (excellent) diaspora forum (https://diasporaforum.org/).

If the blog gets adoption, then it will become a success and it will end up being a “core thing”.

Personally, I would only vote on attaching a community blog type of thing to the diasporafoundation.org site if I see actual blog entries written. It just doesn’t seem to happen, lots of people talk about blogging, but then there is not much happening.

Diasporal was AFAIK not an official resource - it just became popular and became thus became kinda “official”, even having a link from inside diaspora. The same could happen to any community blog site that is set up… :slight_smile: