Community anniversary


(Jason Robinson) #41

Awesome :slight_smile: Maybe start sending the mails out on monday, I can do it and keep a log of who sent to on piratepad. Any objections?


(goob) #42

No objections from me, as long as everyone’s happy with the draft email. Thanks for your work, Jason.


(Jason Robinson) #43

Will send some out today and see if some instant feedback comes which we can use to clarify the email. Let’s see if we get a few blog posts on some tech blogs :slight_smile:

Plz if you know any good sites to email - let me know here or put them in piratepad: http://piratepad.net/IOOTIYz2vi


(Flaburgan) #44

@dennisschubert ping =P


(Jason Robinson) #45

OK, first question from the recipients (from TechWeekEurope);

How many users are there?

Ouch, difficult question to answer :slight_smile: Any suggestions for a nice answer? Something we can put on the wiki FAQ too.

I’d say something like this:

"Since diaspora* is decentralized and anyone can install and run the software, calculating the user amount of the whole network is simply impossible. Diaspora pods can be loosely compared to email providers - and no one in the world can tell how many email addresses there are in the world.

However, there have been guestimates made about the amount of users on the whole Diaspora network by looking at the largest pods we know of. One such estimate is maintained by one of the largest pods diasp.eu (https://diasp.eu/stats). It puts the total amount of users on the whole Diaspora network at just over 400K.

In the future it is possible we will add code to allow pod maintainers (=podmins) to opt-in and automatically send user counts to a central Diaspora Foundation owned service, to gather more reliable statistics on the network."


(Jason Robinson) #46

Oh btw, if anyone who has access to the press@ group please always if you reply to someone make sure to also include press@ in CC so everybody else knows the email has been “done” :slight_smile:

I was thinking anyone with good communication skills can reply to single questions - larger interviews maybe Sean? :wink:


(Jonne Haß) #47

I’d vote for setting the sender to press@ and putting it into the BCC too btw.


(goob) #48

It’s a good answer.

I think I’d just change slightly the bit about guesstimates. My impression is that the stats site estimates numbers of users by the numbers of connections a pod has with users on its pod. (I think this tends to over-estimate the size of larger pods and under-estimate the size of smaller pods, but that’s another matter.)

I’d also leave out the bit about maybe gathering stats in the future. It’s something we’d need to discuss in Loomio, and it’s not necessary to give an indication of this possibility in your response, I don’t think. I’d just leave that out.

How about something like:

The short answer is that no one knows! Since diaspora* is decentralized and anyone can install and run the software, calculating the number of users on the whole network is simply impossible. Diaspora pods can be loosely compared to email providers - and no one in the world can tell how many email addresses there are in the world.

However, there have been guestimates made about the numbers of users on the whole Diaspora network by the numbers of connections each pod has with some of the largest pods we know of. One such estimate is maintained by one of the largest pods diasp.eu (https://diasp.eu/stats). It puts the total amount of users on the whole Diaspora network at just over 400K.

Any good?


(goob) #49

Oops, that second para should have read:

… guestimates made about the numbers of users on the whole Diaspora network based on the numbers of connections each pod has …


(Jason Robinson) #50

Jonne, yeah sender should always be press@ IMHO - and BCC works fine too.

Goob, ok fair enough, can leave out the “maybe in the future”. I don’t like the diasp.eu stats since guesses are always bad - but until we have opt-in statistics we don’t know :slight_smile:


(goob) #51

You could make it more vague, and leave out the link to the stats. In fact, I would recommend not linking to that page, because it’s been stuck at just over 400K for well over a year, in spite of loads of people signing up all the time. Loads of the pods listed as single-user are multi-user pods. It doesn’t seem that responsive.

Perhaps: ‘Estimates based on connections between pods put the figure at at least 400,000, although it could be in the millions! However, diaspora* isn’t really about numbers; it’s about giving any individual the freedom to use the social web without sacrificing their privacy or personal data.’


(jonsger) #52

I have start an appeal for the german diaspora community: https://pod.geraspora.de/posts/1487445


(goob) #53

Do we have some artwork yet?

Here are links to the ones people have posted so far. Not many, but you can see what you think.

For some reason I’m getting 404s for some of these at the moment, even though they were all genuine posts over the past week and were fine then, Hopefully just a temporary glitch, I’m sure they haven’t all been deleted so soon…


(Flaburgan) #54

404 => it’s because the message is not public.


(goob) #55

Except each message was made to the DHQ account, and it’s from that account that I was trying to view them…


(jonsger) #56

@dennisschubert ping :wink:


(Dennis Schubert) #57

I see. Just randomly adding people to the press@ address is maybe not a good solution as that persons are kinda able to make “official” statements.

Any ideas for something like a quick election process?


(Sean Tilley) #58

@dennisschubert I like this idea, any suggestions as to how to best carry this out? :slight_smile:


(goob) #59

@jasonrobinson , in fact, on second thoughts, I’d be inclined to just not attempt to answer their ‘how many people’ question, and just say stuff like ‘decentralised nature … impossible to tell … diaspora not really about numbers but freedom …’ etc. Probably too late now to suggest that, in any case!


(Dennis Schubert) #60

@seantilleycommunit no real ideas, that’s why I posted it here… ;D