I would like to be able to block comments from annoying people. People on my ignore list are folks I want to have zero interaction with. I just want them blocked from my view.
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Hmmā¦ is that really necessary? I mean, nobody forces you to read what somebody else felt compelled to write. If somebody annoys you, just stop taking notice. (In real life thatās more difficult, agreed. But we are talking of the internet, arenāt we.)
Besides, you can
a) ask the postās author to delete comments you find insulting, and
b) hide the whole post from your stream.
Iād say thatās sufficient.
Thatās what Iām trying to do. A lot of people can just ātune outā TV commercials. I canāt. I either have to hit the mute button or turn off the TV in order to not be mentally barraged with unwanted messages. I know I am not alone in this.
I want a particular person to quit uglying up the conversations in my stream with his racist and misogynistic bullshit. The thing is, he has the right to his opinion. But I am under no obligation to have that shit on my computer screen. Could someone please allow me the capability to participate in the wonderful community of Diaspora*, while simultaneously removing this one asshole from my view?
P.S. I know that a user is prevented from commenting on my posts when I ignore them. And thank the devs we at least have that. I am talking about ignoring or greying out comments from people on other peopleās posts. Just to make that clear.
I know. But isnāt what youāre proposing something you can do without technical assistance? Or, in other words: Would not working on oneās equanimity be the more effective approach? Considering that people do change every once in a while?
No, with the first coffee in the morning, while the news, I do not feel like doing mental and visual slalom to dodge idiots, my personal time line of being, just that, personal.
Okay, letās stop developing Diaspora* right now, Diaspora is a tool for people, so, people do not need solutions, we dedicate to watching television, television is not for people, television is for masses, everything is the same for everyone , Prefabricated contents that you should eat as the capital sends or do not eat, because ā¦ if that is what we want, stop the development of free networks right now.
The whole point of this free network (well, part of it) is that we can tailor it to our needs and desires. If we should mentally filter out what we donāt want to see, then why have a āstreamā with customizable āaspectsā at all? Why not just have a firehose?
Because firehoses rarely fit into fibre cables? No, joke aside, I see your point, but I hope you also see mine. Itās not a āgrown-upā attitude demanding from someone else (a technician, e.g.) to do things that are his own duties. And to think for yourself, and to decide by yourself is a humanās foremost duty.
Solving the problem of online bullying and harassment is absolutely a technical problem for social networks to solve, and given the prevalence of the problem, Iām a bit surprised this is controversial. Relentless harassment has forced users off of Twitter. Cyberbullying has led to suicides. Software can try to be neutral, but in the end, the choice made either empowers the harasser or the harassed.
The block feature itself is a tool to empower users to curate what they want to see. Expanding an option to make it global ā if comment.author.blocked next āmakes the tool more useful and empowers the harassed person who set the block. Rendering the comment unconditionally empowers the harasser.
Assuming that a user is on the ignore list and his/her comments are not visible anymore in the comment section of a post: If other comments or even a sequence of comments refer to the (invisible) comment(s) of the blocked user, will the discussion as a whole still be readable/meaningful when parts of the discussion are missing? (In case of a troll or bully, it is very unlikely though, that the discussion is of any value anyhow, but invisible comments might affect the quality of ānormalā discussions.)
Hmm. Isnāt blocking objectionable users the cause of facebookās echo chamber that iām trying to escape from? Greying out maybe (serves as a flag). I do agree that trolls, who might be paid or state sponsored, ruin it for everyone and would agree to a banish if enough agree to the troll designation. How about shunting folks who earn troll points to a āschoolā section so mods/users can help them understand their sin before they get banned?
But going back to the original question - why not just go to facebook where you get exactly what you want?
Iām concerned that in your desire to eliminate racists, you want to outlaw the person you consider a bigot to challenge your beliefs. Maybe āracistā is a mislabel or inappropriate designation but YOU are too narrow minded to see that. Even if you conflate racism with Islamophobia (not da same ting), that person should be allowed to challenge your beliefs - there ARE some grounds for reasonable concern. Only if the convo becomes āstuckā or insulting should some system intervene.
You have not understood anything, the matter it is not Diaspora* exercises censorship as facebook style, the deal it is the absolute sovereignty of each user on his timeline.
Postscript, facebook users complain that they see comments from users who have blocked.
@mstrube yeah, it might be best if ignored comments are greyed out. It might get confusing if people are responding to something that you yourself cannot see.
@bobi, this will not create an echo chamber for you if you decide not to ignore comments from certain users.
How about shunting folks who earn troll points to a āschoolā section so mods/users can help them understand their sin before they get banned?
Firstly, because that lays undo burden upon the podmin, or some other person to be somehow delegated to that task, to repeatedly expend personal energy every single time a troll comes to town. In other words, that is a governmental process, and it sort of fucks with the quasi-horizontal nature of Diaspora*.
Second, No one is even talking about banning anyone from the network. We are talking about users having the ability to remove certain people from their own view (and no one elseās), at the userās discretion.
My refusal to read a piece of text is not censorship. If I refuse to let you read a piece of text, that is censorship.
Proposal: option to ignore comments from ignored users
Users should have the option, when ignoring a user, to ignore their comments on other usersā posts as well. When you want to āignoreā a user, you should be able to ignore a user.
Outcome:
Votes:
Yes: 7
Abstain: 0
No: 2
Block: 0
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